Comments on: Roadshows http://gov2.net.au Design by Ben Crothers of Catch Media Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:51:50 +1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Madeleine Kingston http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-13188 Madeleine Kingston Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:36:43 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-13188 James The issue of regional inclusion is not limited to Gov2. I have seen impacts in all sorts of ways including with assessment of energy policy issues and presumptions made that are extrapolated from urban to regional issues. Totally agree with you that a dedicated regional focus is required. If the Project is accepted and becomes a reality more pressure needs to be placed on considering regional issues as a discrete challenge. Have just responded to Kishan's posting, who missed out also in the NT. Hang in there - assuming you read this. Madeleine Urban Newcomer. James

The issue of regional inclusion is not limited to Gov2.

I have seen impacts in all sorts of ways including with assessment of energy policy issues and presumptions made that are extrapolated from urban to regional issues.

Totally agree with you that a dedicated regional focus is required.

If the Project is accepted and becomes a reality more pressure needs to be placed on considering regional issues as a discrete challenge.

Have just responded to Kishan’s posting, who missed out also in the NT.

Hang in there – assuming you read this.

Madeleine

Urban Newcomer.

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By: Madeleine Kingston http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-13186 Madeleine Kingston Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:24:09 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-13186 Kishan (Public Servant NT) Like you I stumbled on Gov2 - a pure accident. I am not a public servant. But I am engaged (as evidenced by my multiple postings, all belated and after the fact. Newcomers have a lot of lot time to make up for and twice the reading volume. Take it slowly. Wish I had known about it early. More fun blogging than responding to poorly planned formal consultations, most overlapping with dates and indeed in terms of goals, impacts and legislative deadlines. Instead of focussing on thye disatger areas I am getting to know more about6 Gov2 - in hope tht this will bring better outcomes with governancy and polocy. It is so much mkore than Web design and technology or information availability. Hang in there. My personal experience has been that it is possible to form warm relationships by remote methods. Sorry the Road show did not hit the NT where you needed it. Still not too late to join the dialogue. That you bothered to respond to this at all is evidence of you wish to engage. Keep persisting. No-one can miss you good intent and wish to engage. Cheers Madeleine Fellow Newcomer Kishan (Public Servant NT)

Like you I stumbled on Gov2 – a pure accident.

I am not a public servant. But I am engaged (as evidenced by my multiple postings, all belated and after the fact. Newcomers have a lot of lot time to make up for and twice the reading volume. Take it slowly.

Wish I had known about it early. More fun blogging than responding to poorly planned formal consultations, most overlapping with dates and indeed in terms of goals, impacts and legislative deadlines.

Instead of focussing on thye disatger areas I am getting to know more about6 Gov2 – in hope tht this will bring better outcomes with governancy and polocy. It is so much mkore than Web design and technology or information availability.

Hang in there.

My personal experience has been that it is possible to form warm relationships by remote methods.

Sorry the Road show did not hit the NT where you needed it.

Still not too late to join the dialogue. That you bothered to respond to this at all is evidence of you wish to engage. Keep persisting. No-one can miss you good intent and wish to engage.

Cheers

Madeleine

Fellow Newcomer

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By: Madeleine Kingston http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-13185 Madeleine Kingston Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:02:57 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-13185 Cheryl (Landgon-Orr) (CLO) from 19 Aguust 2009 You have hit the nail on the noggin. The concept of smart planning and timetabling has been a big issue with me for years, especially in terms of government-organized meetings, presentations, consultative processes. Many would-be attendees at information sessions and so-called consultative workshops; and would-be participants in the more formal consultative initiatives are either double or triple booked or too exhausted from one effort to even contemplate others. I can hardly believe for example, in my own case as a person of unusual stamina, enthusiasm, persistence that I cannot appropriately contemplate the five formal submissions that face me or do justice to any of them, given the short time-frames the huge volume of reading material and the concentration involved. Why? Over-lapping deadlines, inadequate timetabling; poor inter-body collaboration and planning in the timetabling of events; and general inter-body collaboration are significant obstacles. What I am doing instead. Relaxing. Blogging on Government sites, notably Gov 2. Will my distraction have any impact on policy outcomes? Unlikely What will happen if I fail to meet any of the deadlines that I had originally been committed to? Nothing. Most policy decisions are pre-determined; blocked at Ministerial level; inadequately considered; or else entirely un-influenced by external in-putters? What does this mean? Effective partnerships do not exist. Citizen-Government partnerships are not only rare but the cultural, political and attitudinal barriers are yet to be surmounted. Should we give up? Not yet. There is much potential for Gov2, assuming it will go beyond shop-front approaches, mean so much more that Web 2 technology; and represent a meaningful dialogue with interested stakeholders across the board, from "needle-in-the-haystack" contributors to the more obvious either already established with government through direct employment or contractual association; and also assuming that a genuine partnership; is sought beyond sourcing of ideas generally; and that a genuine commitment to true collaborative democracy is sought. Are planning skills and commitment at optimal level? No. Optimization of participation cannot be achieved without this. What is required? Top level governance and leadership. Planning - from the top down, from high level policy to the nitty gritty of calendar planning, giving room for adjustment of dates and failure to meet planned deadlines, but always in a spirit of collaborative effort between all bodies and parties concerned. Strategic planning and direction that leads optimal operational outcomes - the theory and practices gaps are perennial and apply to all sectors of management within and outside government. Why are we all still here? Hope. Hope runs eternal in the human breast. Can't remember who said it. (Up to a point) Cheers Madeleine Newcomer Cheryl (Landgon-Orr) (CLO) from 19 Aguust 2009

You have hit the nail on the noggin.

The concept of smart planning and timetabling has been a big issue with me for years, especially in terms of government-organized meetings, presentations, consultative processes.

Many would-be attendees at information sessions and so-called consultative workshops; and would-be participants in the more formal consultative initiatives are either double or triple booked or too exhausted from one effort to even contemplate others.

I can hardly believe for example, in my own case as a person of unusual stamina, enthusiasm, persistence that I cannot appropriately contemplate the five formal submissions that face me or do justice to any of them, given the short time-frames the huge volume of reading material and the concentration involved.

Why? Over-lapping deadlines, inadequate timetabling; poor inter-body collaboration and planning in the timetabling of events; and general inter-body collaboration are significant obstacles.

What I am doing instead. Relaxing. Blogging on Government sites, notably Gov 2.

Will my distraction have any impact on policy outcomes? Unlikely

What will happen if I fail to meet any of the deadlines that I had originally been committed to? Nothing. Most policy decisions are pre-determined; blocked at Ministerial level; inadequately considered; or else entirely un-influenced by external in-putters?

What does this mean? Effective partnerships do not exist. Citizen-Government partnerships are not only rare but the cultural, political and attitudinal barriers are yet to be surmounted.

Should we give up? Not yet.

There is much potential for Gov2, assuming it will go beyond shop-front approaches, mean so much more that Web 2 technology; and represent a meaningful dialogue with interested stakeholders across the board, from “needle-in-the-haystack” contributors to the more obvious either already established with government through direct employment or contractual association; and also assuming that a genuine partnership; is sought beyond sourcing of ideas generally; and that a genuine commitment to true collaborative democracy is sought.

Are planning skills and commitment at optimal level? No. Optimization of participation cannot be achieved without this.

What is required?

Top level governance and leadership.

Planning – from the top down, from high level policy to the nitty gritty of calendar planning, giving room for adjustment of dates and failure to meet planned deadlines, but always in a spirit of collaborative effort between all bodies and parties concerned.

Strategic planning and direction that leads optimal operational outcomes – the theory and practices gaps are perennial and apply to all sectors of management within and outside government.

Why are we all still here? Hope.

Hope runs eternal in the human breast. Can’t remember who said it. (Up to a point)

Cheers

Madeleine

Newcomer

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By: Kishan http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-7331 Kishan Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:18:28 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-7331 Its a shame that the roadshow didnt include the NT. I have to admit that i am very new to this however in the position that i am in, as a public servant, i find it almost impossible to ignore the need for me to engage with the NT mob that is online (pertaining to my work). I stumbled across all of this totally by accident. As i am trying to launch a web2.0 intervention project for STI/BBV this report will become the backbone of my work in this field (if approved)./ Its a shame that the roadshow didnt include the NT. I have to admit that i am very new to this however in the position that i am in, as a public servant, i find it almost impossible to ignore the need for me to engage with the NT mob that is online (pertaining to my work).
I stumbled across all of this totally by accident.
As i am trying to launch a web2.0 intervention project for STI/BBV this report will become the backbone of my work in this field (if approved)./

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By: Taskforce Secretariat http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-2459 Taskforce Secretariat Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:47:00 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-2459 The audio file for the Townsville Open Forum has now been uploaded. Please note that our professional recording service could not start at the beginning of the event. Because of this, the beginning of the Open Forum was recorded on a handheld device, and that recording has then been combined with the professional recording that captured the rest of the event. You can hear the transition from one recording to the other at approximately the 14:25 mark of the audio file on this page. The audio file for the Townsville Open Forum has now been uploaded. Please note that our professional recording service could not start at the beginning of the event. Because of this, the beginning of the Open Forum was recorded on a handheld device, and that recording has then been combined with the professional recording that captured the rest of the event. You can hear the transition from one recording to the other at approximately the 14:25 mark of the audio file on this page.

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By: Taskforce Secretariat http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-1625 Taskforce Secretariat Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:10:17 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-1625 We've now added the audio file for the Hobart Open Forum that was held on September 22nd. We’ve now added the audio file for the Hobart Open Forum that was held on September 22nd.

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By: Taskforce Secretariat http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-1572 Taskforce Secretariat Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:58:19 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-1572 Thanks for your query Ros. The event was cancelled due to low attendance numbers so unfortunately we don't anticipate rescheduling at this stage. Thanks for your query Ros. The event was cancelled due to low attendance numbers so unfortunately we don’t anticipate rescheduling at this stage.

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By: Ros Handley http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-1571 Ros Handley Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:50:13 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-1571 Will this be rescheduled? Will this be rescheduled?

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By: Taskforce Secretariat http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-1569 Taskforce Secretariat Mon, 21 Sep 2009 01:08:41 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-1569 Please note that the Taskforce Open Forum for Bendigo, due to occur from 1.00-3.00PM on Wednesday 23 September, has been cancelled. Please note that the Taskforce Open Forum for Bendigo, due to occur from 1.00-3.00PM on Wednesday 23 September, has been cancelled.

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By: Taskforce Secretariat http://gov2.net.au/roadshows/comment-page-1/#comment-1405 Taskforce Secretariat Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:00:12 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?page_id=510#comment-1405 We’ve added the audio from the Adelaide event, and have also provided streaming for all audio files. For more information about our crowdsourcing experiment, please see <a href="http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/09/10/the-vox-pop-2-0-learning-journey/" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a>. We’ve added the audio from the Adelaide event, and have also provided streaming for all audio files. For more information about our crowdsourcing experiment, please see this blog post.

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