Comments on: Blegging the power of the bleg http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/ Design by Ben Crothers of Catch Media Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:51:50 +1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: uberVU - social comments http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-6139 uberVU - social comments Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:19:05 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-6139 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by citizen_bob: Blegging the power of the bleg | Government 2.0 Taskforce http://bit.ly/5asL4d... Social comments and analytics for this post…

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By: Michael Nielsen http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-6074 Michael Nielsen Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:12:19 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-6074 An extended piece on the mathematical problem, which really was an amazing success: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7266/full/461879a.html Several more projects in this vein are now underway - see http://gowers.wordpress.com for a sample. An extended piece on the mathematical problem, which really was an amazing success: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7266/full/461879a.html

Several more projects in this vein are now underway – see http://gowers.wordpress.com for a sample.

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By: Nicholas Gruen http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-6062 Nicholas Gruen Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:36:08 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-6062 Not a bad bit of work - <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/projects/magazine/ideas/2009/#m-2" rel="nofollow">solving a tricky mathematical problem</a>. Not a bad bit of work – solving a tricky mathematical problem.

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By: Neil Henderson http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5990 Neil Henderson Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:07:12 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5990 Is there any possibility of using words which which suggest that the community becomes a participant in government and therefore can help shape the development of policy, rather than a just recipient of government services? I would not expect the community to necessarily own or share the risk because that is governments role but I think the idea of showing the community that government considers their role to participatory would be good. The closer the communication between community & government the more the lines of separation are blurred (I would hope). So what about engendering the idea of community and government becoming a team without getting too cheesy about it?! Is there any possibility of using words which which suggest that the community becomes a participant in government and therefore can help shape the development of policy, rather than a just recipient of government services? I would not expect the community to necessarily own or share the risk because that is governments role but I think the idea of showing the community that government considers their role to participatory would be good.
The closer the communication between community & government the more the lines of separation are blurred (I would hope). So what about engendering the idea of community and government becoming a team without getting too cheesy about it?!

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By: Despina http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5987 Despina Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:31:20 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5987 It's a significant shift in the relationship...moving from a benevolent but paternalistic one to that of an active partnership will require a readiness to embrace openness and to be less fearful of potential embarrassment by robust citizen activism It’s a significant shift in the relationship…moving from a benevolent but paternalistic one to that of an active partnership will
require a readiness to embrace openness and to be less fearful of potential embarrassment by robust citizen activism

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By: Craig Thomler http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5836 Craig Thomler Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:04:55 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5836 I don't know if the relationship change will necessarily be 'subtle' :) I don’t know if the relationship change will necessarily be ’subtle’ :)

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By: Kevin Cox http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5828 Kevin Cox Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:51:39 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5828 Nicholas You need look no further than open transparent market places for examples. The power of open markets is that they allow collective action decide the most efficient allocation of resources. No one person or group decides the best way to supply food for our tables. Government 2.0 is an enabler of "markets" in ideas (memes) to flourish and gives both governments and citizens ideas from which they may choose. You never know the idea of encouraging departments to give individuals electronic access to their own information may even make the grade:) Nicholas

You need look no further than open transparent market places for examples. The power of open markets is that they allow collective action decide the most efficient allocation of resources. No one person or group decides the best way to supply food for our tables.

Government 2.0 is an enabler of “markets” in ideas (memes) to flourish and gives both governments and citizens ideas from which they may choose.

You never know the idea of encouraging departments to give individuals electronic access to their own information may even make the grade:)

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By: Kerry Webb http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5816 Kerry Webb Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:28:39 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5816 I'd change the first para to: Government 2.0 will create a better relationship between the government and the community, as each finds more effective ways to communicate with the other through technology and the sharing of non-sensitive data. The three pillars are : ... (thanks to the work of William Zinsser - simplify, simplify, simplify) I’d change the first para to:

Government 2.0 will create a better relationship between the government and the community, as each finds more effective ways to communicate with the other through technology and the sharing of non-sensitive data. The three pillars are : …

(thanks to the work of William Zinsser – simplify, simplify, simplify)

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By: Dave Briggs http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5803 Dave Briggs Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:29:34 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5803 I think the last bullet point, re: culture, should come first. Far more important than the techy stuff. Also the last sentence needs to be reworded. Done properly, there's nothing subtle going on here - we're talking a complete transformation of the relationship between government and governed. I think the last bullet point, re: culture, should come first. Far more important than the techy stuff.

Also the last sentence needs to be reworded. Done properly, there’s nothing subtle going on here – we’re talking a complete transformation of the relationship between government and governed.

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By: Michael Nielsen http://gov2.net.au/blog/2009/12/13/blegging-the-power-of-the-bleg/comment-page-1/#comment-5801 Michael Nielsen Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:45:13 +0000 http://gov2.net.au/?p=1497#comment-5801 A more successful past example: http://friendfeed.com/michaelnielsen/13e0f7c7/does-anyone-know-of-any-specific-cases-where-use The question was whether anyone knew of cases where the semantic web had been instrumental in a scientific discovery. What's interesting here is that despite getting a lot of feedback from knowledgeable people, my question remained unanswered. That suggests the right answer is "It's never been instrumental". A more successful past example:

http://friendfeed.com/michaelnielsen/13e0f7c7/does-anyone-know-of-any-specific-cases-where-use

The question was whether anyone knew of cases where the semantic web had been instrumental in a scientific discovery. What’s interesting here is that despite getting a lot of feedback from knowledgeable people, my question remained unanswered. That suggests the right answer is “It’s never been instrumental”.

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